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Illum Details von http://www.askajedi.com/ - Ilum ist eine Level 50 Endgame-Zone. - Der halbe Planet wird für die World PvP Objekte verwendet. Und der planet ist riesig. - Es gibt 5 Kontrollpunkte in der Zone, eine Republik- und eine Imperiale Basis im Norden und Süden, dazu noch 3 zentrale Unterstützungsbasen. - Alle 5 Kontrollpunkte müssen eingenommen werden für den Sieg. - Bestimmte Kontrollpunkte setzen Walker aus, die mit tragbaren Raketenwerfern aufgehalten werden müssen. Es dauert ungefähr 10 sec um einen Raketenwerfer abzufeuern. - Der Sieg gewährt einen stackbaren Buff, der mehr Tapferkeitspunkte (welche man durch PvP/Warzones erhält) erzeugt. - Der Buff gilt für die komplette Fraktion. - Es gibt seltene Craftingmaterialien in der Zone. - Die Zone kann hunderte Spieler beherbergen. - Das Design berücksichtig Bevölkerungsunterschiede. - Maximale Raidgröße ist 24 Spieler (bezieht sich auf die maximal Gruppengröße, nicht auf PvE-Raids) Ein Video. Zeigt nicht vieles aber gibt einen schönen Eindruck auf die Größe der Landschaft/Gebäude. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTgbK...layer_embedded Im Video wird auch nochmal erklärt, daß es für Illum noch Extramarken als Belohnung gibt die zusammen mit den Warzonemarken eingetauscht werden können. Edit: komplettes Interview von Darthhater.com During the first day of the Fan Site Summit, Gabe Amatangelo answered questions about Ilum's Open World PvP zone, Voidstar, Flashpoints, and Operations. We include a transcript below in the order of the questions asked; there are some repeated questions with expanded answers as well as follow-ups out of immediate order. Is there a size limit for guild vs. guild, could you theoretically be in a party of, a couple hundred if you have a big guild against a couple hundred, if you're all in parties? Gabe Amatangelo: No. Right now, it is the Operations group limit which is going to be 24. We're going back and forth on that, but it's 24 right now. In the open world zones, how are you doing population balance? For example, one side is really outnumbered than the other. So that's why the mechanics is what it is. We went through and tested a bunch of different mechanics. It's five captures so you have to keep all five. If you're 100 vs 20, that 20 is going to get in somewhere. You have to spread out to keep them off, and the sort of war effort buff that you get. You get stacks and it gradually increases. How much you get for killing and how much you can get out of Warzones happens from defending at a place that you have and you can keep stacking it when you take new ones. So if there is a group of 20 vs. 100, they're sitting at one, they're keeping one, and if that whole 100 decides, hey, they're at the northern assault, they all start moving there, you guys can move elsewhere, so keep it spread out. But obviously we want to keep killing players because that's where the Valor is coming from. More after the jump. Can you tell us anything more about Warzone sizes besides what we already saw? It's always going to be 8v8. For all warzones? The three warzones we have right now, 8v8. Warzones are only pulling from your own server correct? Currently yes, they only pull from your own server. In Voidstar, you're doing the attack and defend, what happens if the defenders keep them off, do you go to a round two, or do you just... It goes to a round two, once the time's up. And it gauges how far your progress was, and then it compares the progress. If someone made it to room 2 and you only made it to room 1, obviously the other team wins cause they got all the way through there. If they got through the barrier of room 2 versus planting the bomb in room 2, it gauges the progress. Is there a cap on players in Ilum? No. Well, there is a limit, but I don't imagine people are going to hit it. So you could essentially have hundreds on each side -- is that an accurate estimate? I can't say any numbers, but it's going to be lots, yes. As far Ilum goes, did you say it was going to be persistent like constant? It's constant. It's not a timer. It's always going on. The timer is when you destroy the other vehicles, and your vehicles are able to fly in, it's five minutes before your vehicles are vulnerable to attack, that's the only timer. But other than that, if you want to wake up at 3 AM and take it from the Empire, who seems to be dominating it, and you're Republic, by all means you can do that. One of the challenges of open world PvP is two factions -- what if one is not populated versus the other? Is there any sort of incentive or anything, any mechanics built in to help balance two faction populations. That is the challenge with open-world PvP, and as soon as you start introducing systems, then it stops becoming open-world PvP to an extent. So what we decided to lean on, and of course we'll be moderating and we might adjust stuff afterwards, but we we're leaning on right now is the mechanics. And like I was saying is that there is five different objectives and you've got to keep all five to have control. If they're 100, they've got them all and they spread like 20 to each objective, and there's only 20 of you, then you're greatly outnumbered. You can go have a fight at one of those objectives and you can have, theoretically, a fair fight at one of those objectives. As soon as they all start to shift over there, they're leaving some other place so you can go for that point, one of the other assaults, or another base or something to that effect. Now the war activity you have throughout, you keep stacking these war effort buffs, the war buffs enhance how much Valor you get from kills but it also enhances how much Valor you get in a bonus at the end of Warzones as well. So if you're there at 4 AM, and no one is in there, you're like, "Ah, I'm going to go in and take a couple objectives and then run some Warzones." It's like you can build up that buff regardless, so you have a purpose to go there whether there's people there or not. Does it change the alignment of the planet, like when you go on to Ilum does it say, hey it's now Sith and everyone on there is flagged, or if it's Republic...? It doesn't change the alignment for the planet. It doesn't affect the PvE. The thing that it affects is that the players who control it do have -- I hovered over it briefly -- an icon (indicating) that they have an additional bonus. Did I hear you say Operations can be 24? Operation groups can be 24, but it's 16 in the larger mode of the Operation content, if you follow what I'm saying. Like you could form a group of up to 24 people, and you have 24 people that are all in the same group and you take them to Outlaw's Den and you're allies and you fight everyone else. So you're not talking about like Eternity Vault? The content is 8 and 16. Pre-mades... we still can't go in with a full group of 8 to the Warzones? Correct. And you were talking about maybe later you may allow that. What kind of queues are you looking for that? Once you start doing the 8... There's a certain amount of people who want to participate in those teams, so I would say at that point we'd be looking at cross-servering if we're going 8v8. Within the community, everyone participating including the people who queue solo, the people who queue with a couple buddies. Then you have things like Huttball where it could be the same vs. same, so you're going to keep having pops. You have a tight knit community within PvP there, so thats what we're striving for with that. But once we start exploring those other things, like the 8v8, the tournaments, that kind of stuff, that's when we'll start looking into just getting people in warzones. How long would it take to maybe go through one Operation if you have a successful run? Three hours. How do people transition from Flashpoints to Operations if they haven't operated a raid? They've got a pathway. For example, Black Talon and Essles, they (adds) keep coming in, but two people can handle it. And there's this one guy in Black Talon... he basically drops a plasma probe that keeps pulsing out. But immediately after he drops that on you, he elbows you to knock you out of it. It's like, dude you don't want to stand in a void zone, get away from the fire. So we kind of do baby steps with the mechanics to try get people familiar. But in terms of a new approach to enrage timers, is there anything in particular you want to show off? Actually in the normal mode flashpoints there's not enrage timers, we're not doing enrage timers there because thats more of an advanced feature. It's definately in hard mode Flashpoints and definately in the Operations. But in the normal modes of flashpoints as you're leveling up, no enrage timers there. |
Illum Details Mehrere hundert Spieler, klingt schonmal super. Doof ist das man anscheinend doch keine Walker steuern kann, sondern die einfach kommen, wenn man ein bestimmtes Ziel erreicht hat. Cooler wäre es wenn man selber so ein Teil lenken könnte. Freue mich schon, so grosse Schlachten finde ich besser, als Warzones oder Duelle, ist mehr Kriegsfeeling. Man kann also Support Sachen rufen, wie Walker und sowas, ist ja fast wie damals Alteractal, das war super. Werde da wohl meine Freizeit verbringen.^^ |
Illum Details Naja, vieleicht kommen steuerbare Walker usw später in einem Addon oder Patch. Es hört sich auf jedenfall schon sehr gut an. |
Illum Details ich glaube es ist besser für unser aller nerven, wenn spieler die walker nicht steuern. |
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Wie früher die Bosse beschwören im Alteractal, gab es so Elite-Reiter, Elite Luftunterstützung und die riesen Bosse. So ähnlich läuft das auch hier, man erfüllt bestimmte Aufgaben und bekommt dann NPC Unterstützung. Wie hier im Video schön zu sehen : Zeichen des Krieges. Walker, Elite NPC Truppen landen mit Shuttels und sowas alles. Also das ist doch Affengeil.^^ Voll die Schlacht. Epic. |
Illum Details Hört sich auf jeden Fall sehr gut an. Wesentlich besser als die 3 Warzones. So kann wirkliches Star Wars Feeling aufkommen. |
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Erinnert an daoc :P Ach ja Nice Freu mich jetzt noch mehr Will nun keine beta mehr sonder ein KO schlag der 1 Monat anhält ;P |
Illum Details Das macht soviel Laune das man von Pve gerne zum PVP gehen will (wird) ! |
Illum Details Ja danke für den Beitrag, das hat mein Hype Level wieder auf 320 % gepusht.^^ Man will endlich auf Ilum rumballern, mit den Soldaten. |
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Ansonsten klingt das alles doch schon mal sehr gut. Hauptsache der Server hält es aus wenn sich alle auf demselben Planeten kloppen. |
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Illum Details Ich stell mir Ilum vor wie in Warhammer die PvP-Zonen in den einzelnen Tiers. Da ist auch ständig der Kampf im Gange um kleinen Außenposten, Burgen und ganze Festungen. |
Illum Details Na das ist was für Papas Bub |
Illum Details Schade, daß die nicht auf die Thematik PvE auf Ilum eingehen. Aber danke für die PvP Infos |
Illum Details Kann kaum english kann wer die wichtigsten dinge vom Interview raus fischen oder hat Wallahan das schon getan? |
Illum Details Liest sich so als würden Xrealm Warzones sehr sehr sehr sehr wahrscheinlich werden in naher Zukunft. |
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Emfand diese festgelegten Festungsraidzeiten in Aion immer als einengend. Da fehlt völlig das Überraschungmoment,denn der Gegner kennt die Zeiten auch. Lieber rund um die Uhr wie in DAoC/WAR und wenn Nachts um 01:00 plötzlich Stützpunkte fallen, weiss man das der Feind was grösseres plant. |
Illum Details Klingt doch nach einem brauchbaren Endgame das nicht nur aus Dailies farmen besteht. Man merkt dass die Leute von Mythic im Team sind ! |
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Gäbe es kein Open World PvP in SWTOR hätt ich das game wahrscheinlich nichmal mit dem Poppes angeguckt. PvE kann ich auch in anderen MMO's genug haben.Werds zwar auch spielen klar,aber wohl mehr PvP. Hach das Open World PvP wird denk ich super.So nen bisschen Battlefield Conquest+Festungsraid von Warhammer.Klingt super. |
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Die Zone soll wohl dauerhaft bestehn und einfach immer offen sein. Zwitschern einige Vögel so bisher. Alles andre hört sich sehr gut an, endlich auf Bonis für die Seite, welche Illum an sich gerissen hat, so schafft man Anreize. |
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